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How to counter the Panther D & Tiger H1/E – War Thunder

War Thunder Panther D and Tiger H1/E

Today by the request of a fellow player, I will be showing you how to overcome and counter the Panther D and Tiger H1/E. Enjoy!

Tiger H1/E Description

Before we hop into the tank’s weakspots and the main part, let’s read some of that history, shall we?

The Tiger Tank was armed with a main 88mm cannon, one 7.92 MG34, and a MG42. The tank weighed in at a total of 60 tonnes, with a crew of 6. The top speed for this tank was 45.4 kmh, or 28.2 mph and it was powered by a Maybach HL230 P45 which held 700 horsepower. The tank was designed in 1941 by Henschel & Son. The total amount of this Tiger variant was around 1,350 tanks. The E version was unlike the H1 version armed with 2 7.92 mm MG34’s, other that that it doesn’t change too much.

Tiger H1

Tiger E

Tiger E Pros & Cons

Pros:

  • Has access to APCR Shells
  • Thick frontal armor, bouncy turret
  • Good side and rear armor – tank can be angled effectively even against attackers from the rear
  • Great gun capable of defeating all other Tier 3 vehicles
  • One of the fastest Heavy tanks with its top speed of 45 km/h
  • Good reverse speed

Cons:

  • Ammo racks offer great targets
  • Slow acceleration and turning speed
  • Turret traverse is second slowest on Heavy tank line for Germany.
  • Low maneuverability, susceptible to being outflanked by more quicker adversaries

Specifications

Tiger H1 Pros & Cons

Pros:

  • Thick frontal armor
  • Great gun capable of defeating all other Tier 3 vehicles
  • One of the fastest Heavy tanks with its top speed of 45 km/h
  • Good reverse speed
  • It’s box-like shape gives the ability to some angling tactics
  • The rear is surprisingly hard to penetrate, partially due to the slightly-angled armour, and partly due to the large exhaust pipes which seem to deflect shells.

Cons:

  • Lower Glaces is easy to penetrate
  • Transmission catches fire easily
  • Ammo racks offer great targets
  • Slow acceleration and turning speed
  • Turret traverse is second slowest on Heavy tank line for Germany.
  • Low maneuverability, susceptible to being outflanked by more quicker adversaries

Unsloped armor on all sides

How do you counter the Tiger H1/Tiger E

Because I’m currently on my extremely horrible laptop due to my desktop PC breaking down, I can’t even upload images, I will fix this once my PC will be fixed.

The biggest flaw of the Tiger H1 is the lower glacis plate, that big and juicy metal plate on the lower front. The same 85 mm soviet gun can pen it with absolutely no problem using any rounds excluding HE (High-Explosive) rounds.

Other than that, if the Tiger H1 is hiding it’s lower glacis the second place that is pretty vulnerable to everything on it’s BR is the flat front plate, the fact that it’s not sloped means you can squeeze absolutely everything from your penetration.

Here is a photo:

Moving forward, we have the Tiger E, it’s a little bit more complicated than the previous Tiger, it has tracks on it’s lower glacis, meaning you simply DONT shoot there, instead shoot the front plate, if the Tiger is hiding it, shoot him right at the barrel, that at most cases will destroy his 88 mm and leave him vulnerable to a flank attack, if he has the parts he can fix it under 20 seconds so stay aware.

Here is a photo:

YELLOW – DONT SHOOT

RED – SHOOT

It’s so bloody hard to use this little horrible laptop, God have mercy on me, sweet Jesus.

Panther D description

Lazy to find some information on the internet, will try to talk about it in my own words, my own studied history.

The panther D was the first Panther to cross the battlefield, it was an attempt by the Germans to counter the Soviet T-34’s, it’s main gun has more penetration with stock rounds than the Tiger’s 88 mm stock’s. (Panther 185 mm, Tiger H1 ~160)

Now you know that the Panther is a death machine.

Pros:

  • Very good top speed, good acceleration
  • High velocity shell ensures less shell-drop
  • Excellent long-range capabilities

Cons:

  • Extremely slow reverse
  • Very slow turret traverse speed
  • Weak cannon barrel and breech
  • Vulnerable in the gun mantlet & front turret
  • Weak in the sides and rear

An APCBC round from the IS-2 to the frontal sloped armor will destroy the Panther, don’t fear to do just that.

Panther D – How to counter it?

Your best bet is a shot at the turret, just shoot at the front turret cheek, that will kill the gunner, loader, commander, depending which cheek you choose to shoot at.

Pretty fast, huh?

Keep in mind that the reverse speed is terrible (3-5 km/h), the reverse speed killed me lots of times.

The guns with stock rounds that work against the front weakspot of the Panther D are:

  • 85 mm stock rounds.
  • 122 mm stock rounds.
  • 152 mm stock rounds (Anti-concrete shells on the Su-152)

(The tank’s guns are around the same BR as the Panther itself so follow advice what to use against it)

This was extremely hard, took me 2-3 hours to complete on this horrible laptop.

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